What’s up everyone. I have a million thoughts in my head about daygame and man-to-woman interactions in general. Not speculation but interpretation, raw models that I’m forming based on stuff that happens in the trenches. So get ready for that.
I go out regularly, and I’ve been on a few dates with hot hot girls just recently 😊 I’ve also messed up a couple of prospects with bad texting, but I’ve learned to maneuver the texting a lot better than before. Going on the dates themselves is a chaos of riddles… but the answers are starting to crystallize. Slowly.
So no new lays… but it seems like I’m getting closer and closer. I don’t know if I am, but I will keep walking the path. Occasionally this stuff depresses me, but right now I’m excited.
Okay time for my brain-vomit. You’ve been warned.
Some things unique about various fast forms of game, like daygame
During an evening with close friends last year I told them a story about how I visited a girl was seeing, but I was too stressed from work to have sex with her. The arrangement we had was one where sexual release was playing the main part. I explained that if that happens again, she probably won’t make much effort to see me again. We were living about an hour’s drive from each other, and she had a child, so scheduling was always a challenge.
One of my friends said something along the following lines: if she won’t see you because of something like that, then maybe that’s not a person you should be with.
When a layman is “seeing someone”, it is usually under the premise that a serious, monogamous, long-term relationship is the goal. The feasibility of that is what’s being evaluated.
For this reason, when someone who practices, let’s call it fast game (fast game: approaching and interacting with women in order to have sex with them FIRST, and then see if there’s desire or potential for any other kind of collaboration), attempts to explain it’s challenges to a layman, he is often met with confusion or misinterpretation.
For this reason it’s also pointless to seek sympathy for any problems you have in game. A person who has decided to learn fast game often has to endure quite a lot of frustration. This frustration would be viewed by the layman as childish and self-inflicted.
I’m not saying this is wrong. Depending on sympathy is not productive, and one could argue that since fast game gets no sympathy, that is the ultimate game a man can play.
Now, if the fastgamer (cool words I’m coming up with, no?) is frustrated because he is unable to have sex with ADDITIONAL women, and has already had many women in his life, or is even currently seeing one or more women, then the layman’s point is arguable. There are many men who are completely unable to get women in bed, and the reasons may range from just being unwilling to floss, all the way to being severely disfigured. One day our dicks will decompose, so why not be grateful for every sexual experience we have? Buddhism talks about small desire, which is a great idea.
However, in my case, and I suspect in many other fastgamers’ cases, the thing that can cause frustration is not the lack of sex, or feeling like you deserve something automatically and are not getting it, but another thing. Frustration comes from knowing I’m a good guy (I know I’m a good lover. I know how to treat a woman and I’m very, very good in bed), but there being a sort of glass wall between me and women. I find that my own challenges in daygame are to a large extent that I do not know how to communicate, in the types of situations daygame entails, how good I am. The woman misses it. I could create a revolution in her sex life, but she never sees that chance.
This leads me to another thing I’ve been thinking about. I’ve approached way over 200 women now, but still just got 1 or 1,5 of those in my bed, depending on how you count. HOW the hell can that be?
In daygame, there are a thousand skills which must be fine-tuned.
-How close do I stand
-Do I compliment her
-Do I temper the compliment with a tease
-How do I make her feel like I care about more than her appearance
-Where do I take her on a date
-How do I know if it’s appropriate or too pushy to try to bring her home at the end of the date
-Do I say “hey next week we could do this” or “yeah it was nice. Have a good evening” and just walk off.
These are broadest of the broad strokes.
See, normally when boy meets girl, it’s through mutual acquaintances or a shared activity. There they see different sides of each other. For example, imagine how much more you see about a person when you observe them interacting with other people, compared to just you and that person having one-on-one interactions.
Then boy and girl go on a date. They probably know already that the other party is also a bit infatuated. Sometimes the date reveals that no, it’s not gonna work. Sometimes the date flows so smoothly that a lovey-dovey boyfriend-girlfriend arrangement quickly begins to take form. Monogamy is assumed, slimy genitals are rubbed together in the perfect bliss of acceptance and commitment.
When you text a girl you met in daygame, she usually has about 5-10 minutes of experience of you. And those minutes were pretty intense, since both felt the stakes were high. If she misinterprets a text message, that’s going to form a larger proportion of her experience of you, than if you talk to her every week in Spanish class or whatever. She won’t have many reference point about you, and an unfavorable interpretation may cast a shadow too dark.
This is why a good prospect can be ruined by bad texting, and masterful text maneuvering can bring back a prospect who is on the fence. I was confused by this earlier.
Example of a small success:
Approached her on Sunday. Very pretty. This conversation took place on Monday.
Me: Hey XX, how are you?
Me: -Markus Conqueror of Mountains (this was a reference to something we talked about when I approached her in the street)
Her: Hey Markus 😊 I’m doing fine! Just going to the center, even if this heat is a bit too much :O
Her: How has your week started?
Me: Yeah (thumbsup) Pretty easy, a bit of yoga and beer on the terrace. How’s your next few days, would to have time to meet over a cup of coffee?
Her: Okey (thumbsup)
Her: Tell me why came to talk to me?
Me: First it was just an impulse. I asked for your number because you were polite and you like nature
Her: Okay 😀 do you often go up to women led by impulse?
Me: Naah… I’m quite picky 😊
Me: Anyway, I still have tomorrow night free if you want to meet 😊
Her: Well ok we can meet 😊
Twice she sent clarifying questions before agreeing. Previously I would probably have crumbled: given some looong explanation and then immediately requested confirmation for the meetup. But now I understood that she wanted to feel special. She was special. My replies soothed her, so we met the next evening… but I fucked up on the date royally 😀
See, the same thing can happen on the date if you have very little experience of each other… very small things can send it astray. It seems to me that often laymen ask each other “how did the date go”, and they mean, were you destined to be together? To that question one is supposed to answer either it went well, or, yeah I don’t know maybe we don’t have so much in common.
I’m not saying it’s not a good idea for a fastgamer to find commonalities.
But when the fastgamer says, yeah it was going well but then I got physical a bit too fast, then tried to recover by talking about my dog, then I touched her again, then this and that happened… the layman is bewildered. What does that have to do with anything? Can’t you just get to know each other and see if it’s meant to be?
Again, “it” is not even on the table yet when a fastgamer goes on a date. The possibility for sex is. And the faster shit moves, the smaller the error margins.
I don’t have any final answers to conclude this. I personally feel like daygame is important for the universe, and that I owe the women I meet to give them a great experience. I’m regularly doing daygame again and topmost is a burning curiosity.
Actually, even daygame isn’t important. But it’s what I do.